Hence it is Olympic, not Titanic. This is a classic example of a 'meme' using demonstrably false information or incorrect images to promote the 'switch' theory, as it can be very easily disproved when looking at documented photographs. that when the crew joined Titanic there was [sic] rumours that the company It is not surprising that even Frank Finch doubted the third-hand story he relayed. Ice on the deck was not from an iceberg Firstly, how would White Star believe they could pull something like this off when no doubt hundreds of crew would see water pouring into the ship through the seacocks? PRODUCED BY AIVL, WHOI Firstly because a collision resulting in water overflowing the top of a bulkhead was considered very unlikely. There are a couple of important points to first realise. However, there are several large issues with this theory. However, And that paneling" This has led some to believe that Titanic's first class dining room, unlike the Olympic, was in fact carpeted over, as later portrayed in James Cameron's film "Titanic". As far as I am The ship photographed departing Southampton has 16 bow portholes. Fenton was made a fellow of the Royal Society of Literature in 1983. too difficult and improbable, Gardiner uses this to allege a more deliberate and logical plan. the committee, announcing that he will be in Venice on April 23 for the inauguration of the biennial International Art Exhibition, April 25, and dedicate the new Campanile of St. is unfair and disingenuous at best. Damage from Olympic's collision with Hawke was more significant 1)The well known (to some of you) James A Fenton, alias "Paddy the Pig", who in the early 1970s, hinted how the loss of the Titanic was not entirely accidental. She had a total capacity of 47 passengers and 55 crew members. Interestingly, Gardiner himself has admitted the image is fake. Leading Fireman Frederick Barrett testified before the British Wreck Commission that on the day of the collision I have contacted Steve Hall directly (November 2018) to clarify this and there are 4 important points to be considered: 1. Winning the prestigious Newdigate Prize at Oxford for his poem Our Western Furniture, Fenton seemed destined for poetic fame. This is where Gardiner's theory starts to get even more bizarre. This New York Times newspaper article, printed prior to Titanic's departure, shows conclusively that Morgan would be in Venice on April 23 so he would be in no position to take the Titanic back to the United States and return in time. His wartime experiences heavily influenced his ensuing volumes of verse, which included the pamphlet Dead Soldiers (1981), containing a single poem on meeting Pol Pots brother in Cambodia; The Memory of War: Poems 19681982 (1982), including some of his student work; and Children in Exile (1983). Claim: Photographs taken of Titanic at Southampton shortly before her maiden voyage show a large area of discoloured plating, as if it had been newly painted with paint that did not quite match the original, in the same location as Olympic's hull was damaged by HMS Hawke. Titanic's sea trials were shorter than Olympic's And there is evidence of 'white' paint on the hull of the wreck. Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou explains this particular claim: According to the book "The Ship That Never Sank" (pages 134-135) B Deck had no cabins extending to the hull as boats were visible. This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. Presenter Danny Wallace says: "This is a cracking conspiracy theory and all too tempting to believe were it not for the mass of evidence against it so it seems Titanic and Olympic never were switched, there never was an insurance scam." After a million men had walked out for 37 days the government intervened and ended the strike by passing a minimum wage law. This is because, of course, as an insurance scam everything was a set up and rescue ships were in the area waiting for the sinking. We also have a substantial amount of supporting evidence to prove that Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved: 1. Bulkhead put on Olympic found in stern wreck Order. keeping quiet all those years had taken a great toll on his health and the sanity Even if that simple fact is not enough, the other alleged details regarding the Californian are being misrepresented. The evidence for this is that it is only mentioned Despite the lack of any evidence (and the clearly fictional nature of the claim) it also has no logic for at least 5 key reasons: 1. On Olympic the fireplace was at the outer wall between two windows. Olympic had a 2 degree list to port, as did Titanic 5. This should not be surprising as the wheelhouse was built during the fitting out stage and so did not exist during the launch. surviving crew got to port they were all taken aside and met by two men, one This was the result of a difference in the coal consumption and the emptied coal bunker aft of BR 6 and forward of BR 5The coal bunker was on the starboard side which was emptied. Stick to the path. The bulkheads were not actually sealed at the top, this oversight allowed water to flow over, filling each compartment, one at a time. 25. April 14, 1930 - April 12, 2021 IN THE CARE OF Victory Memorial Park Funeral Centre It is with wonderful memories of a life well lived that we announce the peaceful passing of James "Jim", "Jimmie", "Paka" Fenton, on April 12, 2021 at the age of 90. Two major watertight compartments were flooded, her hull plating was gashed, the starboard propeller shafting damaged. Olympic was recorded as having a tonnage of 45,324 (1911-1912) while the Titanic was recorded as 46,328 - a difference of 1004 gross tons. In 1973 Terminal Moraine (1972), his first full-length collection of poetry, won the Eric Gregory Award. So Cameron confirms that the veins in the marble are exactly the same as in a period photograph, and the photograph he used is one of Olympic. The swap was purely to keep the company in business. Olympic officers on the bridge Claim: The stern section of the wreck has a longitudinal bulkhead, that looks like a temporary repair had been made to strengthen the keel, exactly what had happened to RMS Olympic. This has already been discussed here. Claim: The ice on the deck of the Titanic is explained by Gardiner as ice from the rigging of both the Titanic and the mystery ship she hit. Florence Ismay (wife of J Bruce Ismay, chairman of White Star) also cancelled along with their children, and just like Morgan she said she was ill, and instead went on a motoring holiday! Claims for this range from "two of the firemen, boiler stokers and greasers" to "a large proportion of the engine crew" to the specific number of 173 who 'preferred to wait for employment on another ship.' When or where did he ever say he discovered this? furniture and panelling was better that the Olympic is not accurate; furnishings and paneling aboard Titanic were, with the exception of unique rooms such as the And those occasions he returned early were in June - never as early as April. And any allegation to the contrary - of an increase - needs evidence, for which at present there is nothing but unverified speculation. Titanic, although only just superceding her sister in size, was no longer big news and so the public and media were not as interested in her maiden voyage as that of her sister. The claim that Olympic got them is absurd. how in just four and one-half days the Titanic reached the position where she sank if she was never able to travel at more than 12 knots! However the way in which it is painted to look part of a conspiracy theory Mount Temple (50 miles) Canadian Pacific Steamship Company cargo ship, Westbound, London to St. John's, Newfoundland Claim: All that needs to be done to switch the ships is exchange those parts of the ships which bore the vessels names such as name plates, the ships bell, menus and note paper letterheads, the names on the life belts and life boats, also any plaques and brass fittings with the liners name on and any interior signing bearing the name Olympic or Titanic. Titanic 's insurance was increased 5 days before sailing 2. The ship being ready to steam was simply because they were trapped by ice and at the earliest time possible would want to continue their journey. Get a Britannica Premium subscription and gain access to exclusive content. Fenton, F. -Saloon steward Ferrary, Auto -Trimmer Ferris, W. -Leading fireman . His answer, as it was in relation to the wreck only, is because "the wreck wasn't 100% confirmed until Jim Cameron's expedition in 2010/11 i.e. As to Gardiner's claim that ''Titanic -actually the Olympic - never travelled faster than one-half her designed top speed, as her damaged hull was too weak to endure the stresses of a prolonged high-speed run', there is absolutely no documented evidence to support this. His father, a hotel proprietor and licensed victualler, was also born in Portsmouth whilst his mother was a native of Alfriston, Sussex. In summary Gardiner's allegations that Titanic was in fact a damaged Olympic struggling to maintain speed does not add up, especially when you consider that he alleges Claim: Also, at Titanic's launch, all of the windows on B-deck were evenly spaced out, yet on her maiden voyage they were seen as being unevenly spaced, just as Olympic's were. Claim: Titanic had a newly named room, "The Olympic Room" because, superstitious shipping merchants believe it is bad luck to change the name on a ship, and J Bruce Ismay, and J.P. Morgan thought it best to have the Olympic's name still somewhere on board. Although Fenton is absent from all the available crew lists, it doesn't immediately negate his story - the lists are not infallible, and we all saw how Leonardo Di- er, Jack Dawson blagged his . 11. Firstly, Ismay's wife and children did not cancel at the last moment. If not, it is a moot point. Claim: Dr Robert Ballard has admitted that when he discovered the wreck of the Titanic he found evidence it was actually the Olympic. However he conveniently does not explain (Click to enlarge). surviving crew got to port they were all taken aside and met by two men, one Considering the discovery of Olympic's name on the lifeboat(s) allegedly occurred at least twice, on different continents, and no doubt seen by at least several people, why there are no written accounts, sketches or photographs of at the very least the boat, let alone the discovery, should ring alarm bells in the mind of any serious researcher. Incidentally, although called 'Old Reliable' her 24 years seemingly confuses the two in name. This photograph of Titanic leaving Belfast on her way to begin sea trials allegedly reveals discoloured plating in the same location where Olympic had damage after its collision with HMS Hawke. Californian was not expecting rockets, but a rendezvous For more information on the conspiracy theory that J.P. Morgan was protecting the formation of the Federal Reserve, please check this page here. Marble in the Sitting Room would have remained in surplus. Captain Smith was photographed by a newspaper photographer on the bridge of the Titanic. However, this is not unusual, even for modern ships, and can be due to several factors. it is difficult to examine the evidence (if there is any) but needless to say it does sound like hearsay and an attempt to offset The Linoleum flooring covered with carpets TITANIC SAILOR'S DEATHBED CONFESSION OF 'SWITCH' In 1912 Paddy claimed that he was a 22-year- old ordinary seaman aboard Titanic. In fact his comment was made at least 30 years after the disaster (he was 20 while aboard Titanic), so could well have been an exaggeration. Titanic or Olympic: Which Ship Sank? of the surviving crew. 22. In 1971 James Fenton, an elderly boatswain serving aboard the Australian cargo ship Kooliga, told colleagues about his experiences aboard the Titanic. Claim: Titanic's lifeboats had small brass I.D plaques screwed on them and they all said "RMS Olympic". and loss account had risen from $48,585 in 1910 to $821,062 in the year ending This is not heard in the documentary and so Steve Hall is mis-quoted as if he is summarising the entire 'switch' situation, when his comment was actually directly in relation to the wreck - not the theory in its entirety. His translation of Verdis Simon Boccanegra was staged by the English National Opera in 1985, and he wrote the libretto for the operatic adaptation of Salman Rushdies tale Haroun and the Sea of Stories, staged at the New York City Opera (2004). a manifest needs to be presented (and in the grand scheme of things and the overwhelming evidence a 'switch' did not take place would prove very little anyway). He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature and was Oxford Professor of Poetry for the . It makes complete sense that the local Belfast runners did not sign up for a transatlantic maiden voyage that they were not experienced or interested in doing (losing all the local jobs they were used to) when local Southampton crew were used to such "long-haul" trips. According to a Mirror article about Southampton entitled "The City That Lost a Generation to the Titanic Disaster" (March 24, 2012) "17,000 men were without work that April" due to the coal strike. Visit Fenton's special Poetry Archive webpage and listen to recordings of him reading the poems 'Wind', 'Blood and Lead', 'Jerusalem', and 'In Paris with You'. Titanic sailor's deathbed confession of 'switch' 3. So there is nothing surprising with the fact that an iceberg caused enough damage to the starboard side (not bottom) of the hull so as to breach watertight compartments that eventually led to its sinking. There is no proof that a man named James Fenton, also known as Paddy Fenton or "Paddy the Pig" was ever aboard Titanic; his name is not on any of the crew lists or among any of the survivor lists. Actual video footage of Titanic's name clearly visible on the wreck in 1987. the cast iron fireplace with its veined marble surround to still be in place. Albert Edward James* -Able bodied seaman Hosgood, R. -Fireman Hosking, G. F. -Senior third engineer . Suspicion first arose when the Titanic disaster was claimed to be a conspiracy by James A. Fenton, otherwise known as "Paddy the Pig." A believed worker on the Titanic, Paddy the Pig theorized that the RMS Olympic was switched with the RMS Titanic in one of the biggest insurance scams in history. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the windows on B-deck -which should not be surprising as two private verandahs and suites were added to this section of the ship after its launch. Obviously realising that planning a collision in the North Atlantic would be Thirdly, in a picture of Olympic, taken during her 1912/13 refit following the Titanic disaster, this allegedly shows this vessel not to have the 'tell-tale plating' joint, which to 'switch' proponents proves 'conclusively' that the hull pictured is that of Titanic although the name Olympic is clearly visible on both sides of the bow. He also may have been confused with the Reception Room, which did indeed have wall-to-wall carpet on the Olympic. Crewman refused to sail on Titanic LET'S SEE THE "EXPERTS" DEBUNK THIS ONE." that the damaged Olympic had a broken keel and could not make half speed during the sea trials. The letters for Titanic are shown here in embossed form when in reality the outlines were etched into the hull. Another set of poems was published by Fullers press as the broadsheet Put Thou Thy Tears into My Bottle (1969). In the following photographs we can clearly see a curved wheelhouse under construction during Olympic's fitting out stage, firstly just prior to launch and secondly after the launch. Paddy said that the guilt of So that makes it 3 vessels in the area. exploded and caused the fatal damage. Sorry, no evidence of conspiracy here, just a touched up photograph. And the Olympic is actually the Titanic. The lifeboat was wrecked in a collision with the Gosport Ferry at Portsmouth and taken by the Royal Navy to Haslar for demolition. 48. Cameron's expedition showed it matched Titanic." Once it was launched then it was 'fitted out' i.e. drive the ship at full speed.. in a high position in the company, the other man was in a very high position It was only when she collided with an iceberg in a freak set of circumstances that she was suddenly thrust back into the media spotlight. Despite the overwhelming evidence and logic as presented in the previous page, 'switch' proponents will often raise a seemingly large number of questions, doubts, alleged inconsistencies and supposed evidence that has led some to believe the 'switch' is not only possible, but a reality. It must first be stated that it is correct that there is a difference between Olympic in Titanic in this regard. previously published on the 'switch' theory -no doubt due to the release of the book "The Riddle of the Titanic" in 1996. They would only be interested in shorter crossings. In the documentary James Cameron explains: These rooms, they were called the Millionaire's Suites, we went into the one that was reserved for J.P. Morgan. This means Morgan would certainly have no reason to return early on April 10 especially when he was due in Venice by April 23 (remembering that the transatlantic voyages are at least 5 days long, he would be unlikely to make it back in time). Why would it be there? 3. But there is a very simple and logical reason that does not necessitate a conspiracy. 13. It is true that there was a coal strike and this had serious repercussions for the shipping and maritime industries. Irish. In fact, according to American researcher Jon Hollis, the bell recovered single-ended boilers in Boiler Room No. Importantly, Gewinner und Nominierte des Golden Globe Award in der Kategorie Beste Filmmusik (Best Original Score - Motion Picture), die die herausragendsten Leistungen von Komponisten des vergangenen Kalenderjahres prmiert.Die Kategorie wurde im Jahr 1948 ins Leben gerufen. Numerous ships were stationed nearby despite a coal strike Toggle navigation. Such falsification and misinformation reveals that 'switch' adherents are sadly not interested in the truth. The proceeds financed his journey that year to Cambodia, where he reported on the Khmer Rouge, and then to Vietnam, where he witnessed the fall of Saigon (now Ho Chi Minh City) in April 1975. (Click to enlarge). Compare it with the damage photograph below. [American Inquiry, Day 7] There is no mention that he jumped in from B Deck. rumours of an insurance scam, they would serve a minimum of 20 years in jail 16. According to Titanic researcher Jonathan Smith, "The footing of the wheelhouse should be there, the teak lip that outlines the shape of the wheelhouse.". There are two keys errors in this hypothesis. The sea trials were simply to make sure everything worked as advertised. 1949) grew up in Lincolnshire and Staffordshire and was educated at Repton and Magdalen College, Oxford where he won the prestigious Newdigate Prize for his sonnet sequence 'Our Western Furniture'. Clutch my hand. There is no evidence the insurance was increased - let alone by more than double its value, which would immediately raise suspicion. anything like this. The above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in portholes. How could -and why would- a competitor become implicated in a massive and highly complex 'switch' theory, notably without a scrap of evidence to show for it? During this process workers allegedly discovered the name Olympic 'carved into the gunwhales,' as 'the old name had been filled with putty and painted over.' The boats were left until December 1912 in New York. Firstly it must be pointed out that Titanic was technically not going "full steam" at the time of the collision. Paddy said that the guilt of 38. 3rd-class: 2,250. Going aft he passes boat No. the shadows of the butt lap is still discernable." The fields are mined and the wind blows cold. 19345. There he won the Newdigate Prize for Poetry, a contest wherein students wrote poetry on a set topic, in this case the opening of trade and diplomatic relations between Japan and the United States in 185354. There were closer ships that would be more feasible. 2nd-class: 200 The following list of Titanic Passengers and Crew has been compiled from several sources. had switched ships at layup and that an insurance scam was going on. form near me in the afternoon and had questioned the library steward how he should declare his patent) said, "Well, I am accustomed to estimating distances and I put it at James Fenton on how variation in a line presents the poet with many challenges. He holds an undergraduate degree in biomedical engineering with honors from The University of Iowa and completed medical school at The University of . 12 said that the Frenchman jumped in before the boat was lowered, indicating that he did jump from the boat deck into the boat. If there was enough sufficient evidence to prove the wreck is in fact the Olympic why would you need to fake something such as this? the newspaper Northern Star that was published on the 31 July 1996. And how much ice would be on rigging anyway? THERE IS NO MORE THEORY. Firstly, it must be considered that these images were first released in 2012 and have been examined in minute detail by hundreds if not thousands of researchers and historians since then, so why has it taken 7 years for this to have been spotted, if it is indeed unusual? 4. Captain Smith posing for one of Southampton's local newspapers shortly before Titanic's sailing day. But to claim this was "done deliberately to help with a switch" is misleading to say the least - and such a ploy would be mostly ineffective on people in 1912 who were largely unconcerned with such technical inaccuracy in promotional material. The claim that Olympic was fitted with Titanics propeller has been made as a defense for the fact that the propeller on the wreck has Titanic's number on it: 401 There is no record of anyone doing so. 45,324. His theatre reviews were later collected as You Were Marvellous (1983). The wind blows through his silver hair. Proportionally less than Titanic!" 'Titanic of the skies': The story of London's ill-fated luxury airship service to Melbourne. It came from a mold and so there should be no surprise they are exactly the same, that is what you expect from faux marble. Only a limited number of changes required for a switch 6. Or is the answer because there is nothing there anyway? Carpathia was the planned rescue ship Claim: While the wheelhouse of the Olympic was allegedly constructed in a bow fronted fashion, a photograph taken from the top of the huge steel gantry appears to show a straight fronted wheelhouse, exactly as it appeared on earlier drawings of the ship. Now, director James Cameron is hoping . 18. So higher or sealed bulkheads would not necessarily have prevented Titanic from sinking, James Cameron took meticulous steps to ensure historical accuracy when creating his 1997 box office hit, Titanic.Since then, Cameron has done extensive research not only on the Titanic itself but the victims of the ill-fated liner. Though his verse often treated serious subjects such as political repression and violence, he deployed humour and whimsy with a liberal hand. full speed. The fact that Titanic left Belfast and then Southampton in something of a hurry, with none of the fanfare of the Olympic, just one day of sea trials, no stop in Liverpool, and no opening to the public in either Belfast or Southampton, should not come as surprise at all. The special effects of the . Quite simply, while the photograph of the wreck is correct, the image of the "actual Titanic" is not - it is of the Olympic. In fact the outlines of the letters are visible in part on the wreck, and the surviving White Star passenger tender Nomadic, built at the same time as Olympic and Titanic, shows exactly the same process. Titanic when launched was a work in progress, designed to be a better, improved version of her older sister Olympic. The documentary itself, although spending the first 40 minutes promoting the 'switch' conspiracy, actually ends up concluding in the final five minutes that it did not happen. One of the ships bells was What is blatantly omitted in this claim is that of course - as Titanic had only just finished being fitted out and completed her sea trials and was on her maiden voyage (which only lasted 5 days), there was obviously not enough time to produce the required artwork and photographs of her. In my view it is very unlikely that the damage was more significant than was admitted at the time. I saw a child who will never sleep. week and that the Captain and the company knew about it. Baber compiled a list of Morgan's returns from Europe from 1904 to 1912 and "only twice (1908 and 1910) in those years did he return to New York from Europe before July, and in one of those years (1908) he returned that early only to attend a family wedding, heading back to Europe a few days later and staying there until late August." The Blue Vein River is broad and deep. Could it be This claim seems to originate from a quote from Baker Charles Burgess printed in Walter Lord's "A Night to Remember" who stated: "Like the Olympic, yes, but so much more elaborate. However both RMS Olympic and RMS Titanic had their names riveted oncovering something up perhaps? This is true - but also should to any informed reader be completely without surprise or hint of conspiracy. Fenton was born to an Anglican priest and his wife, who died when Fenton was 10. 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